Comments on: What I Learned About This Gamer Watching His Girlfriend Play ‘Left 4 Dead’ http://www.paperfox.org/blog/2008/12/06/what-i-learned-about-this-gamer-watching-his-girlfriend-play-left-4-dead/ Jumping Over Boxes Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:29:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Sophie http://www.paperfox.org/blog/2008/12/06/what-i-learned-about-this-gamer-watching-his-girlfriend-play-left-4-dead/#comment-530 Sophie Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:07:42 +0000 http://www.paperfox.org/blog/?p=616#comment-530 P.S. as a fellow gamer I must say--Excellent work on Kotowari. Have you been to destructoid.com yet? If not head over there and watch 'Hey Ash, Whatcha Playin?' It's the features editor and his sister's gaming escapades. I love it. P.S. as a fellow gamer I must say–Excellent work on Kotowari. Have you been to destructoid.com yet? If not head over there and watch ‘Hey Ash, Whatcha Playin?’ It’s the features editor and his sister’s gaming escapades. I love it.

]]> By: Sophie http://www.paperfox.org/blog/2008/12/06/what-i-learned-about-this-gamer-watching-his-girlfriend-play-left-4-dead/#comment-528 Sophie Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:53:53 +0000 http://www.paperfox.org/blog/?p=616#comment-528 Exactly it's ridiculous how chauvenistic these industries are. And quite ironic considering that there are many strong female lead-characters both in Comic Books and Videogames (EX Lara Croft) but yet many (male) gamers find it humorous when a real girl finally picks up the controller. Furthermore, I find it quite contradictive that, with the amount of complaining that has occured over time from the pervayors of these so-called 'underground' endevours about the "alienation and ridicule" at the hands of the mainstream, one would think the last thing those involved in said 'pop-culture phenomenon' would want to do is alienate and ridicule people trying to partake in the activities that they themselves have so long been teased for. Especially over something as petty as a persons gender. :/ Exactly it’s ridiculous how chauvenistic these industries are. And quite ironic considering that there are many strong female lead-characters both in Comic Books and Videogames (EX Lara Croft) but yet many (male) gamers find it humorous when a real girl finally picks up the controller. Furthermore, I find it quite contradictive that, with the amount of complaining that has occured over time from the pervayors of these so-called ‘underground’ endevours about the “alienation and ridicule” at the hands of the mainstream, one would think the last thing those involved in said ‘pop-culture phenomenon’ would want to do is alienate and ridicule people trying to partake in the activities that they themselves have so long been teased for. Especially over something as petty as a persons gender. :/

]]> By: Foxes http://www.paperfox.org/blog/2008/12/06/what-i-learned-about-this-gamer-watching-his-girlfriend-play-left-4-dead/#comment-527 Foxes Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:06:11 +0000 http://www.paperfox.org/blog/?p=616#comment-527 It's one thing if the article were about his little sibling playing it for the first time, with the same reactions. But "documenting" his own girlfriend and saying he's "proud of her" – like what, his daughter? It's just insulting. And the thing is, these sorts of articles are always about the gamer's girlfriends – never their little siblings, or their unhip parents, or something else that might merit this sort of "awww lookit them try" sort of reaction. It’s one thing if the article were about his little sibling playing it for the first time, with the same reactions. But “documenting” his own girlfriend and saying he’s “proud of her” – like what, his daughter? It’s just insulting. And the thing is, these sorts of articles are always about the gamer’s girlfriends – never their little siblings, or their unhip parents, or something else that might merit this sort of “awww lookit them try” sort of reaction.

]]> By: Sophie http://www.paperfox.org/blog/2008/12/06/what-i-learned-about-this-gamer-watching-his-girlfriend-play-left-4-dead/#comment-524 Sophie Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:01:19 +0000 http://www.paperfox.org/blog/?p=616#comment-524 It's humorous in that it's a person (namely a woman) who is so absolutley terrible at first-person shooter games it's laughable. But not when you take into account the fact they're laughing not at her inability to play the game but that she's a girl playing the game regardless of how badly. I personally as a long time gamer geek find it incredibly insulting when I try to start serious discussions with other (male) gamers on the subject only to be laughed at or proverbially 'patted on the head' and 'send me on my way' because of my sex. I'm sick of the condescending manner I am treated in just because I'm a girl. It's nice to know I'm not the only one. It’s humorous in that it’s a person (namely a woman) who is so absolutley terrible at first-person shooter games it’s laughable. But not when you take into account the fact they’re laughing not at her inability to play the game but that she’s a girl playing the game regardless of how badly. I personally as a long time gamer geek find it incredibly insulting when I try to start serious discussions with other (male) gamers on the subject only to be laughed at or proverbially ‘patted on the head’ and ’send me on my way’ because of my sex. I’m sick of the condescending manner I am treated in just because I’m a girl. It’s nice to know I’m not the only one.

]]> By: Foxes http://www.paperfox.org/blog/2008/12/06/what-i-learned-about-this-gamer-watching-his-girlfriend-play-left-4-dead/#comment-523 Foxes Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:18:12 +0000 http://www.paperfox.org/blog/?p=616#comment-523 I don't understand how industries still alienate a great number of potential innovators just because they are female. Especially in the gaming industry – Nintendo has everyone beat simply because they started to target female audiences (albeit with some stereotypical marketing) It's still hard to find a Wii in stores after it's been out for so long. Can't say the same for the PS3 or the XBox... I don’t understand how industries still alienate a great number of potential innovators just because they are female. Especially in the gaming industry – Nintendo has everyone beat simply because they started to target female audiences (albeit with some stereotypical marketing) It’s still hard to find a Wii in stores after it’s been out for so long. Can’t say the same for the PS3 or the XBox…

]]> By: Nilah http://www.paperfox.org/blog/2008/12/06/what-i-learned-about-this-gamer-watching-his-girlfriend-play-left-4-dead/#comment-518 Nilah Sun, 07 Dec 2008 22:18:55 +0000 http://www.paperfox.org/blog/?p=616#comment-518 Funny, and excellent timing. A coupla weeks ago, in my Concept Development class, we were pitching ideas for an animation we're doing next semester. One guy's story involved the main character trying to play a video game with a friend. The teacher (a woman incidentally) suggested the friend be someone who doesn't know much about video games, thus loses interest quickly. The student's response was, "Yeah, it could be a girl." What ensued was about two hours worth of sporadic women-bashing, because all the guys in the class thought it was funny. Pisses me off how this industry is still so heavily male-dominated. Funny, and excellent timing. A coupla weeks ago, in my Concept Development class, we were pitching ideas for an animation we’re doing next semester. One guy’s story involved the main character trying to play a video game with a friend. The teacher (a woman incidentally) suggested the friend be someone who doesn’t know much about video games, thus loses interest quickly. The student’s response was, “Yeah, it could be a girl.” What ensued was about two hours worth of sporadic women-bashing, because all the guys in the class thought it was funny.

Pisses me off how this industry is still so heavily male-dominated.

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